Dissatisfied Anyone else find the fact that on every website where LoveSystems is reviewed --- including this one --- all of the reviews appear in a month-long span? Some of the reviewers down there said that they had taken a bootcamp 5 years ago, some said months ago, and some didn't mention when they took the program. I am not denying that these people might be legitimate customers, but LoveSystems definitely played some part in these reviews all showing up at once. Maybe those former students are now currently working for the company. Maybe LoveSystems reached out to them to make a review knowing that it would be a favorable one. In any event, this is a biased sample. I actually also took the bootcamp. I was naive about the industry and pickup in general. A few months later I had taken a program with two other companies and purchased another companies one month online video membership for 37 dollars. In retrospect, after having taken all three programs, it was obvious that LoveSystems was the worst, and the worst value by far. one company's product was 300, the online membership was 37, and LoveSystems charged 3k. Pickup is about becoming a cool, socially well adjusted individual. This does not happen in a weekend....and I get it, the bootcamp is supposed to lay a framework for improvement...and in theory that makes sense. But in practice, one night of being pushed into sets will not do anything for you. Going out often along with maybe a little theory will help you get there. As far as actual theory: any and all of the information that I learned on LoveSystems's seminar portion could be found online for free. This company offered me absolutely no proprietary or unique information. The live in field coaching was simply watching instructors approach girls from afar. When you've been doing pickup for awhile you know how to approach, and you know that it is possible to get phone numbers, good reactions etc. by approaching. Therefore, watching people talk from afar is pretty useless. The Lovesystems staff doesn't really do sets with you. I found the in-field portion of the bootcamp to be about as useful and half as fun as going out to the bars with my own friends. The online video monthlong membership from another company gave you all the little intricacies of conversation and things to keep in mind when approaching that I found incredibly helpful. The video seminar provided by the other company gave you extremely in depth analysis on night game interaction. The reason I am a bit bitter about LoveSystems is I feel like they are a little misrepresentative about what their products will be like. Also, they do things like they have done on this website...namely manipulating reviews. In fact, I had a friend who wrote a review on another medium of the bootcamp having legitimately taken it and having had a bad experience. The owner of LoveSystems came onto the forum and said that the review was a hoax. Even AFTER the student had reached out to the owner and provided him with proof, LoveSystems did not retract their statement. Whenever a review pops up that displays Lovesystems in a negative light, you will always see some comments on it trying to dispute it or poke holes in the review. In fact, this very review was flagged by Lovesystems staff and removed temporarily. They refuse to believe that any review that has anything negative to say about their product is a legitimate one. They always comment saying that they offer a 100% money back guarantee for their products so all a dissatisfied student would have to do is ask for it...but that is the industry standard. Every company in this industry provides a 100% money back guarantee, so wouldn't that mean that every company could use the same logic in their response? Wouldn't that mean that every company could claim every negative review was fake? My advice to you would be to do a little bit more digging. Scour the internet for information. Hunt the forums for wings, and if you can't find any, just go out alone. Approach, approach, approach. You do not need Lovesystems. If you still feel you need/want coaching, look elsewhere. Edit: Have you ever wondered why reviews on a bunch of different mediums for Lovesystems are unreasonably high? Well now I know. They actively find ways to get negative reviews removed. This review was once again removed from trust pilot. I then provided proof of purchase and it was restored. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the positive reviews were posted by the business itself. I would appreciate it if TrustPilot looked into the positive reviews as well. Edit #2: there were two other negative reviews posted by others on this page that Lovesystems has removed. Please take the high rating for this business on this page with a big grain of salt. Edit #3: Yes, I am using an alias. Second, I personally know someone with this name that took class with the name that I am using so it's impossible that you couldn't find a person with my name in your system. I know you cannot DIRECTLY affect TrustPilot reviews, but you can contact TrustPilot to notify of compliance breaking rules and email them asking them to ask for proof for certain reviews. Unsurprisingly, the only two reviews that have been removed were the ones that portrayed LoveSystems in a negative light, none of the other positive reviews were removed even temporarily. I know for a fact that you do actively look for ways to get negative reviews removed. A friend of mine posted a review on Ripoff report about your bootcamp and your CEO came in and claimed that the review was a hoax. After my friend provided proof to the CEO that he was a member of the class, the CEO DID NOT REDACT HIS MESSAGE. Also, I have another acquaintance who experienced something similar on DSR. In my first post, I was not "advertising" for other companies. That implies that I am working for them, which I am not, I was simply providing alternatives that I believed in my mind to be far superior options. I have contacted you guys about my poor experience a couple times and you have done nothing to make amens for it so I am not interested in speaking to you or the company again. Edit 4: I genuinely appreciate the honest response. Look, the reason that I chose to take a Lovesystems bootcamp before the programs with your competitors was that the reviews for Lovesystems were considerably higher than that of your competitors. After having taken 3 different programs with three different companies I was shocked to see that the quality was the complete opposite of what the reviews suggested. I began to look more closely at reviews of all three companies over a years time and began to notice a trend. Negative reviews of Lovesystems were removed with a much higher frequency than any of your competitors. I do not buy the fact that you attempt to have reviews removed only if they are advertising a competitor or slanderous in language. The other negative review on this page was not slanderous in language, and did not mention any of your competitors. You wanted to have the review removed only because it was a low rating. You probably emailed TrustPilot and asked the student to provide proof. Some students may have deleted the email that contains the receipt and have no other way of providing proof. Other students may feel that it is not worth their time to go through the charade of having to provide proof, being that there is no benefit to themselves. On the other hand, if no positive reviews are being held to the same level of scrutiny, there will be a disproportionate number of high reviews on any given page. What’s more, is if a student needed to post a positive review, I am sure that they could easily contact Lovesystems and have a copy of the receipt remade. The point of my tenacity in replying to your comments and ensuring that my review is being made public is to give consumers my honest opinion of the situation and to give them perspective on a reason that Lovesystems could have such high ratings. In terms of free content, I actually don’t see THAT much being provided. In every single one of your blog posts you end up trying to sell product. I actually notice that your competitors release a lot more free content and the free content that I was referring to was that of your competitors. In terms of suggestions on what to make better: I’d say improve your money back guarantee policy. A lot of your students are taking a pickup bootcamp because they are not assertive. I, personally, wanted my money back after my experience. I found it very uncomfortable to ask the very people who were running the bootcamp for a refund and therefore wanted to go home and ask for it from staff through email. I found that the refund policy was that a student had to ask for it in person, along with several other stipluations. (One being that if a student is late to any portions of the bootcamp, the refund becomes null and void despite the fact that the instructors themselves were late to every single infield and in class session.) If you want to create a fair policy, allow students to contact the company via email if they are unsatisfied. If you really are that confident that your program works then this should not be an issue. Some students would take advantage of this, sure, but students could take advantage of the money back guarantee even with your current system. Finally, in terms of making amends. I honestly am not interested in any of Lovesystems products at this point. Apart from getting my money back there is really nothing that I want from Lovesystems (Which I was told is impossible at this point). Offering me another product from Lovesystems at this point is akin to a restaurant that you get food poisoning from giving you a voucher for a free meal.

Automatic renewal is a downer, but good product I'm currently using the online dating genie. It's great for match.com, if you're a member of match.com, anyway. It has problems working with both plenty of fish and okcupid. I'm not a member of either zoosk or jdate, so I don't know how well it works for them. If you put a lot of work into crafting good messages with this product than it can yield some great results, however if you expect the included templates to be enough, you'll be sadly mistaken. I think the automatic renewal is cheesy and erodes trust, but since I like using the product it doesn't bother me too much.

it's good and well organized the one problem is that they did not give me a clear response of when my order was coming in even when I asked

good products i bought all the books and up to 110 interview series and would like to buy more but if they have more specials with their video stuff i the interview series good quality info.i have a lot to learn but its all good i am happy with my purchases

Strongly dissatisfied I didn't see a lot of improvement and I am at the same place where I was before the bootcamp. It wasn't worth 5% of the price that I paid for this. This is despite the fact that I followed the instructor advice to the best of my ability and did what I was instructed to do. I asked for my money back at the last day of the bootcamp in person to the instructor (since they said on their website "if you're not completely satisfied, you will get your money back"). I later sent an email as well. They didn't give me refund and replied with some things that didn't make sense. I replied with why it didn't make sense. They didn't reply. I lost 3000$. My advice to anyone who is considering going to the bootcamp / any other live training: 1. Don't be affected by their statement "if you're completely satisfied, you will get your money back" - the probability that you will get your money back if you're unsatisfied is very low. They have in their terms and conditions: "You understand and agree that all deposits and payments for "live programs" (including, but not limited to, seminars, workshops, and bootcamps) are non-refundable" and a few different things which makes you unable to do anything if they don't want to give you a refund, even if they should. 2. Find the review of their bootcamp from Reddit (google "Lovesystems review reddit"). Apply to the advice at the end of that review. I'm coping and pasting that advice below: "I think bootcamp might be a good investment for you if ALL of the following are true for you: 1. You are not dealing with any kind of anxiety or depression. 2. You are relatively new to the game and don't have a solid understanding of the game yet. 3. Paying 3k for 3 day 2 night bootcamp is not a big deal for you. 4. You can socialize with people no problem. You just cant pickup girls because you lack the theory. I think bootcamp might be a bad investment for you if ANY of the following is true for you: 1. You are currently dealing with anxieties. 2. You have been in the game more than a year. 3. You have some sticky point that needs to be fixed in the field. 4. 3k is a big deal." If you don't meet all of the conditions from the first list or meet any of the conditions from the second list, then don't go to the workshop. 3. The workshop doesn't have much more value than watching YouTube videos with pick up advice. If YouTube videos didn't help you, then this workshop won't help you too.